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Hildegard

Today Ghostcrawler posted in his blog about the stat changes in Mists of Pandaria. First things first: PVE gear will be a lot weaker. Let me quote the paragraph for you:

  • We are renaming this stat to “Defense (PvP)” or possibly “PvP Defense.” All players will have 30% base Defense, the same way all characters have some base Stamina.

  • PvP gear will have Defense on it, as well as a new stat, “Power (PvP).” Power increases the damage you do to other players as well as the healing you do to other players in PvP situations.

  • If you have a lot of Power, you’ll do more damage to other players, but they likely have Defense as well. If you fight players in lots of PvE gear, they’ll take more damage. Likewise, a player in PvE gear won’t have enough Power to effectively penetrate your Defense.

  • The names PvP Power and PvP Defense may not be final, but we’re leaning towards going with stat names that are obviously PvP-related, rather than “fluffier” names that might not be as easy to grasp. We want it to be clear to players that neither Power nor Defense have any relevance when fighting creatures, such as in dungeons or raids.

  • PvP gear will be lower in item level than PvE gear of an equivalent tier, however the Power and Defense stats will make sure that PvP gear is more powerful in PvP (both offensively and defensively) than PvE gear. In our budgeting system, the PvP stats will be free rather than causing other stats, such as Strength or haste, to be smaller as a result of including Power or Defense.

  • The goal of this change is to make it easier for a PvP player to participate in PvE, or for a PvE player to get started in PvP. Currently, we feel it is too large a barrier to go from one to the other, and the result has been that we see more and more players choosing to focus exclusively on only PvP or PvE. In earlier expansions, it was more feasible to use PvE gear in Arenas or Battlegrounds until you acquired the more useful PvP gear. The same was true of being able to use your PvP gear in a dungeon or raid until you acquired something better. In Cataclysm, stepping into PvP with no PvP gear would result in a player being so ineffective that it was difficult to even make progress towards acquiring PvP gear.


Effictively this removes most PVE gear from the equation with the possible exception of melee weapons. But I remember that weapon damage was less important because of the percentage modifiers in the spells. I just checked the Talent Calculator and find Backstab still at 200% - so I am not 100% sure.

Still...

As much as we like to bash Blizzard for everything - this is a huge step in the right direction and means, that we may finally be able to play a class like rogue or mage without raiding for the best gear. Next to Blizzard allowing me to ride a flying machine and make my head-slot look like the X44 Quad Deathblow Goggles the best change since arenas got introduced.

Dev Watercooler — Mists of Pandaria Stat Changes - World of Warcraft
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Chocy
  • Mar 2, 2012 8:40:49 AM
Chocy

well it's not like they didn't try to do the exact same thing with resilience, but it's a good thing they have realized that things have to change. not really sure, why you would need two separate stats, one comprehensive pvp stat (offensive and defensive) would be way easier to grasp and much easier on the item budget...

Hildegard
  • Mar 2, 2012 8:51:14 AM
Hildegard

The point is that first of all everyone has a base defense, means starting in PVP with levelling gear will protect you better than before. You can still hold a flag spot longer than now etc. Which means that the entry level gets lowered. Secondly PVP gear will be solide PVE starter gear, better than now probably. Third - the new pvp stats do not only provide defense, like now, but also offense. If tuned correctly PVP Power will be stronger than PVE gear regarding damage and defense at the same time. Today PVE gear does always more damage at the same item level and is often better despite a lower item lvl than pvp gear. Certain comps (RMP being the most prominent) scale extremly well with offensive stats while being able to avoid needing the defensive stats. With the new change rogues and mages will have the best offense and defense while wearing full PVP gear. This stops the current option to sacrifice defence for offence (except gemming/enchanting) and makes balancing easier. For many seasons (not including this one) mages and rogues needed PVE gear to put out enough pressure but became easily to strong with enough of it, while with full pvp gear they were at max mediocre.

Tommy
  • Mar 2, 2012 12:21:46 PM
Tommy

I really like this change. If you play Arena right know the PvE gear is such a huge advantage in PvP, I mean the deathwing weapons and trinkets destroyed this season completely...!Good changes.


Hildegard
Chocy shared a post from Wilde Hilde

Without a working ladder WoW as E-Sports cannot continue. These dozen are a mere start if Blizzard intends this to be more than a warning. The movie industry, the music industry and even the fucking porn industry started to sue their costumers and I am pretty sure, that Blizzard would be able to press huge monetary charges against firms and players that offer ingame goods and service against money. I think that this is the only way they could bring back a real pvp community. Find one sorry guy and ruin him for lifetime and the rest will shit their pants and stop the sales or at least the prices will sky-rocket and make it something only few can afford.

Anything else is a minor inconvinience noone really cares about. Hopes are that ArenaNet will keep sales out of GW:2 more effictively than Blizzard did. I have hopes that replays will be effective to shame players that bought achievements and ranks there.

The amazing thing is however, what a huge amount of money is spent on pushes even though everyone always says how bad the game is. I think ways to counter this would be for example contacting Team EG on why they sponsor players that do rating pushs. That would actually hurt. Team EG sponsors Azael, Talbadar and Cdew (who is one the players banned).

You can find Team EGs Facebook page right here: http://www.facebook.com/EvilGeniuses/?ref=tsX_3538X


Hildegard
Chocy shared a post from Wilde Hilde

During the last days many high ranked players got banned for doing rating pushes while playing accounts of other players. While this will by no means change a lot it is a step in the right direction. Among the names I read is Cdew, a very well known shaman and team mate of Azael and Talbadar. 

I would be interested to read more names, as this could also effect further arena tournaments (Cdews team was in the unplayed finals of the latest NAO tournament). 

Chocy
  • Feb 23, 2012 3:26:37 PM
Chocy

crazy...

Hildegard
  • Feb 23, 2012 3:30:21 PM
Hildegard

The problem with all the pushes is that a whole part of the ladder is eliminated. The problem with wintrading is, that once made smart it is very hard to tell if it was actually traded. If both teams fight and then make errors or position badly things get messy. Pushing however can be easily identified (IP, hotkeys etc.) and therefore action can be taken. I think the whole PVP scene is deeply corrupted by now and if not for tournaments most of the competition cannot be taken seriously.

Tommy
  • Feb 23, 2012 3:56:52 PM
Tommy

Haha indeed. I read the summary from Hydra about the different BG's and 50% of the pools where tradet or shared...


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Chocy
  • Feb 23, 2012 1:50:03 PM
Chocy

welcome home, doomsen! :)


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